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BigFoot
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#21 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 15:07 |
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SECOND SUMMARY
BRAND TOTAL TIRES FAILURES % FAILURES
DELTA LT 4 0 0%
GOODYEAR MARATHON 24 3 12.5%
GOODYEAR UNKNOWN 4 1 25%
MISSION ST 4 0 0%
NANKING ST 4 2 50%
SuperTrailer ST 12 1 8.3%
TOW MASTER 4 0 0%
TOYO 4 0 0%
TRIANGLE 4 1 25%
UNIROYAL LARADO 4 0 0%
UNIROYAL LT 4 0 0%
TOTALS 72 8 11.1%
PLEASE SEND IN MORE INFORMATION SO THIS DATABASE WILL BECOME MORE MEANINGFUL. I WILL UPDATE AGAIN AFTER WE GET SOME MORE POSTS.
REMEMBER, WE ARE LOOKING FOR BLOW-OUTS AND STRUCTURAL FAILURES, NOT FLATS FROM NAILS.
So far, comparing the two most represented tires, SuperTrailer (8.3%) is leading Goodyear (14.3%). But how about those Uniroyals? Would the owners of the Uniroyals please check their tires for the country of origin and report to us.
The most surprising result is that the prevailing wisdom that all Chinese tires are junk is not being held up. Assuming from past posts that the brands Delta, Mission, Nanking, Tow Master, and Toyo are made in China, they add up to 24 tires and 3 failures. That's a % Failure rate of only 12.5%, better than Goodyear's. But aren't Goodyear's made in China too?
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Firedawg
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#22 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 01:59 |
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| (4) Super Trail ST 225/75R15 0 failures Last edited on Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 03:34 by Firedawg
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#23 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 02:04 |
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| Bigfoot, the Tow Masters I reported on were made in New Zealand and Canada. They may be made in China now, I don't know. Mine were purchased last year. They have 10-15,000 hard miles on them and are still in good shape.
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b7xv
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#24 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 19:10 |
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| Super Trailer, no failures or signs of wear in over 4000 miles of towing and two winters.
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dswhite
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#25 Posted: Wed Oct 24th, 2007 14:54 |
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Bigfoot,
The Triangle tires were made in China also.
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SwampMan
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#26 Posted: Mon Oct 29th, 2007 23:01 |
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4 Uniroyals that came on it. No hits, no runs, no errors, and no failures. About 7000 miles on the tires, with 5600 of it in the last month.
Last edited on Mon Oct 29th, 2007 23:02 by SwampMan
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BigFoot
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#27 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 01:17 |
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SwampMan wrote: 4 Uniroyals that came on it. No hits, no runs, no errors, and no failures. About 7000 miles on the tires, with 5600 of it in the last month.
Would you please tell us where your Uniroyals were made, in what country?
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#28 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 06:28 |
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BigFoot wrote: Would you please tell us where your Uniroyals were made, in what country?
HI Bigfoot, can you tell me how to find out where tires are made etc. Is there a Code number to look for etc, a site to find this info on.? Thank you, Don. 
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Firedawg
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#29 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 16:01 |
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Nvreloader wrote: BigFoot wrote: Would you please tell us where your Uniroyals were made, in what country?
HI Bigfoot, can you tell me how to find out where tires are made etc. Is there a Code number to look for etc, a site to find this info on.? Thank you, Don.
DOT code is imprinted on the side of each tire, should say DOT followed by a numeric or alpha numeric code such as DOT 7D etc. If you go to this web site http://www.harriger.com/tire1.htm possibly you can find the info you are looking for. Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2007 16:09 by Firedawg
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BigFoot
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#30 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 16:40 |
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Of all the web sites, http://www.harriger.com/tires.htm is the best. Go to the sortable pages and look at all the locations for one brand, it is amazing.
On Edit:
There are three pages of sortable information. Go to each and double click the manufacturer column and then double click the country column. You will see that companies have plants everywhere. And, notice all the entries under China.
Brand names mean nothing anymore. Only the code on the tire will tell you where that tire was made.
Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2007 17:27 by BigFoot
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Jasmar T
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#31 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 20:36 |
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Super Trail ST205x75x15 (Original Tires), no failures or signs of wear in over 5000 miles of towing since January 2007
Manufacture Information, thanks the wonderful URL provided by Mr. Bigfoot, the DOT ID on my tires are: 7D which means the tires are made at the following company: HANGZHOU GENERAL RUBBER FACTORY - HANGZHOU -CHINA
Here is another URL listing of Tire IDs: http://www.tireaccidents.com/tire_plant_codes.htm
Additonal Information on the Tires on my TV:
B7 --> MICHELIN NORTH AMERICA, INC. --> DOTHAN --> ALABAMA --> US
Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2007 23:53 by Jasmar T
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BigFoot
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#32 Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 21:37 |
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THIRD SUMMARY
(10-30-07)
BRAND TOTAL TIRES FAILURES % FAILURES
DELTA 4 0 0%
GOODYEAR 28 4 14.3%
MISSION 4 0 0%
NANKING 6 4 66.7%
Super Trail 8 0 0%
SuperTrailer 16 1 6%
TOW MASTER 4 0 0%
TOYO 4 0 0%
TRIANGLE 4 1 25%
UNIROYAL 12 0 0%
TOTALS 90 10 11.1%
PLEASE SEND IN MORE INFORMATION SO THIS DATABASE WILL BECOME MORE MEANINGFUL. I WILL UPDATE AGAIN AFTER WE GET SOME MORE POSTS.
REMEMBER, WE ARE LOOKING FOR BLOW-OUTS AND STRUCTURAL FAILURES, NOT FLATS FROM NAILS. SuperTrailer and Uniroyal appear to be the tires of choice so far. Be sure and go to
http://www.harriger.com/tires.htm and check out these and other tires as to where they were made, as if that counts anymore(!)
Last edited on Tue Oct 30th, 2007 22:12 by BigFoot
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#33 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 03:15 |
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| ST 235-80-16, approx. 20,000 miles, 1-blow-out. All tires were just replaced with Goodyear Wrangler HT.
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BigFoot
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#34 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 15:32 |
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rovingyecnys wrote: ST 235-80-16, approx. 20,000 miles, 1-blow-out. All tires were just replaced with Goodyear Wrangler HT.
And the brand name was?
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quadpa1911
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#35 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 02:22 |
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(6) Brand: Super Trailer Size: ST235/80R16E 4,000 miles no failures
Last edited on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 01:15 by quadpa1911
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etwilson
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#36 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 22:40 |
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(4) Super Trail ST205 75R15 C 4K miles no problems.
Are Super Trail and Super Trailer the same tire?
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Fireman
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#37 Posted: Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 23:28 |
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Mission ST - 1 structural failure.
click on image to enlarge 
It happened 100 miles from home. Called Scott's Tires the next day and ordered 4 Michelin XPS Ribs (LT) . They showed me another tire that was about to come apart.
8,000 on the Michelins now, and no problems.
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#38 Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 03:38 |
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| OOPS! Super Trailer
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BigFoot
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#39 Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 21:54 |
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INTERESTING
Large 8, Small Zip
Using only the data from owners who have identified their units, and assuming that the Foxy One has a 25R (not in your signature, shame on you), the six smaller units (19 and 22 series) report NO blowouts and the eleven larger units report 8 blowouts.
Anybody want to take a swing at that one?
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Fireman
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#40 Posted: Mon Nov 5th, 2007 01:07 |
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Hummm ? Interesting.
I know on the TDR forum the folks with larger trailers have more tire problems too. Could be trailers are outgrowing the avaliable tires.
I know mine is heavy, within 250# of the tire ratings (per tire) and I travel at 62-63 mph, close to the speed rating for ST tires. I would think the smaller trailers may have a little more margin.
On the other hand the smaller trailers have smaller diameter tires, so they make more revolutions per mile. Should make them run a little hotter. ??
As a point of interest, the XPS Ribs are LT tires designed for light truck/commercial trailer service. They are big, heavy tires and I have never heard of one failing when used on a TT or FW.
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