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#1  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 18:10

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We are probably going to pull the trigger with Thunder this week on the 30U, maybe as early as today.  Our hearts are starting to pound faster as writing the check gets closer!!!

For those of you with BBQ's:  What are the pros and cons of the "attached to the side of the trailer" kind over the free standing variety?  What is your experience with the best makes of each type and which are they?

If you have the free standing variety did you rig up an extension propane hose?  What length did you find convenient and why?  What fittings, etc. were involved in putting it together?

Do you purposely try to plan meals for the
outside BBQ to avoid cooking inside the trailer?  Any significant disadvantage in cooking inside, odors, grease, residue, space, etc.?

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#2  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 18:48

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We had a bbq that came with our previous trailer (fleetwood) that we attached to the side. It hooked into the trailer gas line. When it came time for the Fox we thought about it but decided to not get the attached one, and bought a babyQ instead. The previous was rather cheaply made with grates like those in a fridge, except not as rugged. The heating was very uneven and it was essentially on or off. Also had a flame problem one time and it made me nervous being that close to the trailer. We finally gave up using it.

We went to a baby Q after reading reviews from others on RV forums. It is much more rugged than the old one and cooks much better. Also, one thing I did not like about the old one was the lack of table or counter space to set things on when it was attached to the trailer. The baby Q has to go on a table so our stuff is always there. We did buy a nice Coleman table just for that. I have also found that being able to use the gas line from the trailer is not that big of a deal. The babyQ used canisters and they are easy to just pop on and pop off.

I don't want to bash all attached bbq's (just the one I had before!), so if you go that route I would say get a very, very good one. Also compare them to something like the baby Q. You have to store both of them away when traveling anyway, so just buy the one that looks like it would cook the best.



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#3  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 18:57

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I have heard that the ones that attach to the hose connection on the trailer don't get very hot and do not work very well.  We got a cheap one with the same results.  We now have a Weber Q200 that works very well.  I built a stand for it out of pvc pipe, it tears down and is very light.  I also had a 10' hose made for it so I can just hook it the propane bottle on the trailer and it works very well.  We just use it the same as the large bbq at home.  We cook inside the trailer all the time and have never had any lingering oder from it.  Some people refuse to cook inside and I do not understand why.  It is no different than at home.  Good luck with your decision.



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#4  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 19:11

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We carry the Weber Q grill, one size larger than the Baby Q; got the stand too.   Also carry standard 20lb propane tank just for the grill.  

When possible, I prefer using the grill for smoky things as it keeps cooking smells outside and the inside stove vent fan is poor and NOISY at best.   Plus, Some things cook better and taste better coming from the grill.

On the down side, clean up can be a chore as all the drippings need to be gone prior to packing up.
 

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#5  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 19:14

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Like Ron, we cook inside and odors aren't a problem if you vent properly, use fans, etc.  We dont have the RVQ and wouldn't get one if we got a new trailer.  In our case storage space is the problem.  We make do with a small Weber with disposable bottles.  When my husband used the trailer as his deer camp and I am not along to cook, it does take a little time to get the trailer smelling OK when he gets home!  I use Febreeze to mist the cushions and other fabric parts and a good deodorizer for the whole trailer.  I consider a good deodorizer spray in a trailer a must for frequent use--ours is kept in the bathroom!  



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#6  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 19:22

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Hanging a cheap BBQ on the side of a nice new fiberglass trailer is a bad idea in my opinion. An accident waiting to happen! Buy a good quality table top and use the 1 lb bottles/20 lb tank. You will get much better cooking results and maybe save yourself a lot of hassle and money in trying to fix delaminated/stained fiberglass. You can also use the grill at home.



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#7  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 21:37

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hopers wrote: Hanging a cheap BBQ on the side of a nice new fiberglass trailer is a bad idea in my opinion. An accident waiting to happen! Buy a good quality table top and use the 1 lb bottles/20 lb tank. You will get much better cooking results and maybe save yourself a lot of hassle and money in trying to fix delaminated/stained fiberglass. You can also use the grill at home.
I second this one.  I don't want the smell, heat, or grease right up against my trailer either filon sides or metal sides.  We have a small portable grill with the 1lb bottles and it workds great.  If you do use an extension hose, you need to take off the regulator on the portable barbeque since the outlet on the trailer is already going through a regulator.  You won't get any flame if you don't.  



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#8  Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 22:25

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hopers wrote: Hanging a cheap BBQ on the side of a nice new fiberglass trailer is a bad idea in my opinion. An accident waiting to happen! Buy a good quality table top and use the 1 lb bottles/20 lb tank. You will get much better cooking results and maybe save yourself a lot of hassle and money in trying to fix delaminated/stained fiberglass. You can also use the grill at home.
Second above..... We have the Weber Q and love it. Have had it for about 4-5 years now and still cooks wonderfully. I have a 6 foot table that we set it on. I use a 20 lb propane tank, have a metal riser with 2 side outlets and the lantern goes on the top. One riser will work the BBQ, the 2 burner cook stove and the lantern and no need to worry about using the trailer propane. I love the cook stove outside when cooking things like bacon that makes a mess, and also I have a large grill that covers the entire stove area that is wonderful for cooking for larger groups. We set this up in a "L" shape alongside the trailer under the awning and it works great. The tank and lantern are in the corner so the lantern lights up both the cook stove and the BBQ for night time cooking, plus is a porch type light saving the batteries when boon docking. Another good thing about the outside cook stove is when you are camping with others that do not have an RV, keeps them out of your trailer, they can use the outside gear.



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geez, i guess i'm the only one so far that loves my attchable BBQ...there is NO evidence on the fiberglass of my many uses. it does get plenty hot and is easy to hook up and take down. i do prefer the taste of real charcoal, but the ease of use on the propane unit is nice.



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bugsy wrote: geez, i guess i'm the only one so far that loves my attchable BBQ...there is NO evidence on the fiberglass of my many uses. it does get plenty hot and is easy to hook up and take down. i do prefer the taste of real charcoal, but the ease of use on the propane unit is nice.


We have a Camco Olympian RV5500 SS grill which we use either mounted on the side of our travel trailer, or away on a picnic table.  It can use the trailer's propane port, a 1b disposable propane bottle, or any other propane tank for the ultimate in flexibility.

No problems.  Works great.  Love using it.

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To Gordon's question stand alone or attached, seems like most of those responding here prefer the stand alone grills.  Those that like the stand alone style seems to like the Weber Q style.  I had heard that the Baby Q didn't get hot enough.  Do current users find that to be the case?  Any other stand alone brands people like? 



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We have a Weber Q, not a baby Q but the next size up and it gets plenty hot. I've been very happy with it except that it takes quite a long time to light the first use of the trip.

My thoughts about to go with attached or portable: I have a hard enough time cleaning the awning as it is, let alone when if it get's all nasty from cooking for a week on end. Portable is more flexible for us.



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My trailer came with a BBQ that attaches to the side but the stand that attaches to the side also has legs so I can set it on the ground.  It is an ACE or ATC or something like that, it's out at the storage lot so I can't check.  Don't know if Northwood offers them anymore.  The RVQ appears to only hang on the side and not have legs. 

I'm not crazy about the idea of the thing hanging on the side, especially with something like ribeyes with lots of fat and flames coming out of the sides of the BBQ.

Mine didn't seem to get as hot as I liked so I took it apart and found a drill bit in my Dremel tool that was just slightly larger than the hole in the jet.  I drilled the jet just a tiny bit larger and it made a big difference in the flame.

Increasing the diameter a little increases the area a lot.  Works well now but I prefer it on the ground.  The trailer hookup is handy and you don't have to carry extra tanks.

One thing to keep in mind, my gas outlet is right under the bedroom window.  One evening, in the desert, it was warm and I had the windows open and the vent fan running.  We cooked some brats that produced a lot of smoke.  I didn't think about it until I went in the trailer for something and realized the fan was pulling all the smoke right in the trailer.  That's when you are glad the fan is reversable.

The cooking inside/outside thing was discussed at length on RV Net.  I noticed that prety much all the people that cooked outside live where it is warm.  California,
Arizona, Texas.   Colorado, Montana, and the norhtwest, places where it is cooler or rains, people tend to cook inside and grill outside.

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I don't mind being the odd ball.  I bought an RVQ from another forum member who did not like it.  I like it a lot. On the 30U the mount area is pretty well forward, away from the main door.  I always have the bedroom door closed while cooking so I have never had a problem with smoke in the Fox.  I do not have a problem with smoke or grease on the side or on the awning.  Came with a carry case and stows under the bed very easily.  Actually easier that stowing a table. 

You can wait if you like.  Northwood gave me the the frame details so I knew where the supports were to mount the bracket when I bought mine.

I do not know what brand of BBQ Northwood is selling now. RVQ went out of business but there was a group of employees trying to start the operation again.

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Hunters wrote: ...I had heard that the Baby Q didn't get hot enough.  Do current users find that to be the case? ...

I've had a Weber Baby Q for several years and never had any problem with it not getting hot enough.



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I also have a baby Q and had it modified to run off the low pressure outlet on the Fox. I also kept the regulator so I can use small bottles. I also bought the stand for it so I am not limited to a table top. Having used it both on the Fox and on the bottles I have seen no difference in performance. That said, Weber has now modified the way they attach the regulator making my modification almost impossible.



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I had the attached bbq (it is still in my shed). Problem #1 not very hot, #2 the mess on the side of my trailer (grease). I now use a stand alone bbq.



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We had an rvq on our first Nash. It was just ok. I like cooking outside and want a grill that has a wire type rack so the food drippings can hit the hot parts so aromatic smoke flavors the food. Purchased a stand alone grill from Adam a few years ago for an awesome price and have used it  extensively. I had Suburban Propane fix me up a twelve foot propane hose that attaches to the trailer propane outlet and it works great! The portability that the stand alone grill provides is one thing I really like. (Adam, you should have kept this great Celano grill - it only failed to light one time - when I forgot to turn the propane on.:D

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Nash5r wrote:
Hunters wrote: ...I had heard that the Baby Q didn't get hot enough.  Do current users find that to be the case? ...

I've had a Weber Baby Q for several years and never had any problem with it not getting hot enough.


Ditto here. No problem with the Baby Q. Owned this one for 4 years. Plenty, plenty hot enough. Modified it to use the green cylinders instead of 'blowtorch' cylinders so gas for it is cheaper now.



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canoe wrote: Mine didn't seem to get as hot as I liked so I took it apart and found a drill bit in my Dremel tool that was just slightly larger than the hole in the jet.  I drilled the jet just a tiny bit larger and it made a big difference in the flame. Increasing the diameter a little increases the area a lot.  Works well now.
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Is the jet that you drilled in the grill itself somewhere or in the end of supply hose?  I also have the factory grill and am sure I will need more heat. 



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